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2Pac interview On KMEL radio, '96

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Interview with Tupac Shakur by Sway of The Wake Up Show. It first aired on KMEL's Westside Radio on April 19 1996. Transcribed by KMEL's Davey D
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  2Pac On KMEL's Westside Radio Program interviewed by  Sway ..4/19/96 transcribed by Davey D   E arlier this year..Friday April 19 1996, Tupac Sa!ur  graced the airwaves of KE! adio#s Westside Radio  progra$ in %an Francisco.&ere, in an historic interview he let the entire 'ay Area (now e)actly what he was feeling and thin(ing at that point in ti$e. For those who weren#t *p on the bac(drop at the ti$e that interview aired, +ac had not spo(en to anyone e)tensively since -oining eath ow. &is alb*$, #All Eyes n e# was the alb*$ of choice for $ore then a few head0 especially here in the 'ay Area. he ad oy / Deat Row  conflict was at an all ti$e high... 2o one fro$ the eath ow ca$p had spo(en on co3fo*nder Dr Dre #s depart*re. ore i$portantly, +ac had not been thro*gh the 'ay inwhat see$d li(e years...y boy Sway  of Te Wa!e #p Sow  was the person as(ing the *estions.. $ irst o% a&& 2Pac congratu&ations on your successMost peop&e %rom te ay (rea cou&dn't )e tere )y your side)ut we %e&t &i!e wit every episode you went troug we were terewesaw you troug te media and we were rigt tere roters gotta a &otta &ove %or you ere in te ay (rea and we wanna !now wen you're p&anning on coming )ac!* 2Pac+ 5#$ co$in# bac( for s*re..and 5 love the 'ay. Everywhere 5 go..and every episode 5#ve  been thro*gh, 5 always felt li(e 5 was sharing it..both the good ti$es and the bad ti$es with the 'ay Area. 5 felt li(e whatever 5 a$ the 'ay Area had so$ething to do with $a(ing $e. %o if 5#$  bad they had so$ething to do with $a(ing $e and if 5#$ good they had so$ething to do with $a(ing $e. 'etween the east coast, the 'ay Area and !A and 'alti$ore, those places $ade $e....5owe the$ everything. 5t#s not li(e 5 -*st got love for one bloc(. 5 got love for those co$$*nities.. 5 got love for those areas beca*se everything abo*t those areas $ade $e who 5 a$...Fro$ the crac( heads to biggest ballers to the teachers to the principals in schools to the police that p*lled $e by the ar$ to the $a$$as on the bloc(. o everybody who help raise $e and 5 appreciate it...ith all $y fans 5 got a fa$ily again.hen 5 started rappin# 5 was tal(in# abo*t bro(en ho$es and now everybody is alright again -*st  beca*se of $y fans being behind $e..they $ade it $ore then -*st an artist thing..instead it was li(ethe$ saying #hey that#s o*r ho$eboy and we s*pport hi$. 5 appreciate that... 5 went to -ail and they$ade $e n*$ber one.. 5 appreciate the$ stic(in# *p for $e when everyone was (ic(in $e when 5 was down... hat#s love and 5#ll never trade that..so for the 'ay and hilly and all those areas and all those ghettos and towns..5 love y#all..don#t let this east coast west coast thing get to yo*... 5 love yo* with all $y heart with everything. 5 do this for y#all.... , t seems &i!e every time you come up someting appens to )ring you )ac! down Wen you're caugt up &i!e tat wat is it tat goes troug your mind wen you got mi&&ions o% %ans wondering a)out you* 2Pac+   5t h*rts $e in one way beca*se they be loo(in# at $e saying #a$n yo* got everything  why are yo* doing this7# 5n $y heart 5#ll be saying #a$n yo* (now 5 don#t wanna go to -ail..5#$ trying to live.# n the other hand, 5 can#t really ta(e it personal beca*se 5#$ a reflection of the co$$*nity... All yo*ng 'lac( $ales are going thro*gh that..5t#s happening with a lot of yo*ng 'lac( fe$ales also yo*ng white $ales... A lot of $inorities are going thro*gh that where they try to co$e *p and get p*lled bac( five steps...o $e it#s not personal beca*se they#re all going thro*gh it. he only thing that $a(es it different and srcinal with $e is that people get to watch it fro$ beginning to end li(e it#s a soap opera. 8o*get to watch $ine and with everyone else they get to hide and go to their ho$es and get over it. ith $e yo* see $e dealing with $y greatest pains. 8o* see $e get over things.... W at went troug your ead wen you got sot in -ew .or! and tat wo&e comp&ication*   2Pac+ 5 can#t front. 5t slowed $e down. hat went thro*gh $y $ind was #li(e da$n 5#$ shot#. 5 *sed to believe 5 co*ld never be to*ched. %o now 5#$ $ore caref*l. %o$e people $ay say 5#$ disrespectf*l..b*t 5#$ $ore ca*tio*s beca*se 5 have been shot. 5 (now what that feels li(e. 5#$ not trying to be in that predica$ent. 5 (now we all have choices to $a(e and $y choices have already been $ade even if 5 wanna change it. hat 5 learned in -ail is that 5 can#t change. 5 can#t live a different lifestyle..this is it. his is the life that they gave and this is the life that 5 $ade. 8o* (now how they say #yo* $ade yo*r bed now lay in it7 5 tried to$ove... can#t $ove into so$e other bed. his is it. 2ot for the co*rts. 2ot for the parole board. 2ot for nobody. All 5#$ trying to do is s*rvive and $a(e good o*t of the dirty,nasty, *nbelievable lifestyle that they gave $e. 5#$ -*st trying to $a(e so$ething good o*t of that. 5t#s li(e if yo* try and plant so$ething in the concrete..if it grows and the rose pedals got all (ind of scratches and $ar(s, yo*r not gonna say #a$n loo( at all the scratches on the rose that grew fro$ the concrete#. 8o*r gonna say..a$n A rose grew fro$ the concrete7 ell that#s the sa$e thing with $e.. Fol(s sho*ld be sayin# #a$n he grew o*t of all that7.. hat#s what they sho*ld see. roter you must )e tru&y )&essed to go troug a&& tese tria&s and tri)u&ations you've )een troug and you're sti&& maintaining Even now tey're sti&& comin' a%ter you .ou got tese demons and o)stac&es tat !eep comin down arder and arder ,t seems &i!e everytime you turn around/ you got some)ody !noc!in' on your door trying to ta!e someting %rom you   2Pac+  hey co$e harder and harder. 5t#s li(e everyti$e 5 thin( this is it and 5 go all o*t to beat that and 5 win or 5 lose...5 co$e into the ne)t one and it#s worse. 5t#s li(e the twilight 0one. 5t#s li(e so$e evil, *nstoppable shit that won#t let $e go. 5t#s got it#s hands on $e and it wants to see $e fail. 5n $y $ind so$eti$es when 5#$ dr*n( or 5#$ -*st laying down..5 (eep thing to $yself, #a$nis this tr*e7.. A$ 5 gonna fail7 A$ 5 s*pposed to fail7 %ho*ld 5 -*st stop trying and give *p7 '*t then 5#$ li(e #2aw, hold *p hold on..that#s e)actly what they#re waiting on $e to do#... hey#re waiting for $e to give *p. %o now this is -*st a f*n little ga$e that 5 cry at so$eti$e..that 5 la*gh at so$eti$e..that 5 s$ile at and have good ti$es and bad ti$es..'*t it#s a ga$e. 5t#s the ga$e of life....o 5 win or do 5 lose7. 5 (now one day they#re gonna sh*t the ga$e down b*t 5 gotta have as $*ch f*n and go aro*nd the board as $any ti$es as 5 can before it#s $y t*rn to leave...  0 ow did you %irst get down wit Suge Knigt and Deat Row*   2Pac+  5 *sed to always see %*ge. hen they did the so*ndtrac( for Murder Was Te 1ase  and5 was going thro*gh all those legal proble$s..&e was li(e #8o give $e a song dog#. 5 gave hi$ a song and 5 got the $ost 5 ever got for a song. 5t was da$n near an alb*$ b*dget. 5 got so$ething li(e +:: tho*sand dollars for one song and they didn#t even *se it. '*t 5 still got paid for everything 5 did for the so*nd trac(. 5 re$e$ber when he did it.. &e did it not beca*se he was  -oc(ing $e, b*t beca*se he (new 5 was having cra0y legal proble$s and 5 was a $an. &e had as(ed $e to co$e to eath ow and 5 told hi$ 5 wasn#t ready,. 5nstead of ta(ing it personal he did that for $e and 5 appreciated that. %o when 5 was in -ail -*st sittin# there..5 was gonna *it rappin# b*t then Pu%%y  and iggie ca$e o*tin i)e Maga3ine  and lied and twisted the facts. All 5 wanted to do was end everything and wal( away fro$ the shit. 5 wanted to get o*t the ga$e. 5#$ trying to get o*t the ga$e and they wanna dirty *p $y $e$ory. hey wanna dirty *p everything 5 wor(ed for. %o instead of *ittin# it $ade $e wanna co$e bac( and be $ore relentless to destroy who *sed to be $y co$rades and ho$eboys. hese g*ys were $y closest clic(. 5 wor(ed hard all $y life as far as this $*sic b*siness to bring abo*t east coast west coast love and $a(e everybody feel co$fortable. 5 drea$ed of the day when 5 co*ld go to  2ew 8or( and feel co$fortable and they co*ld co$e o*t here and be co$fortable. %o when people as( $e abo*t this east coast/west coast thing it#s not silly at all...b*t yo* can#t disrespect the love. 8o* can#t disrespect the peace treaty.. hat#s -*st li(e when the 5ndians $ade dealswith the white d*des and they wo*ld -*st co$e and rape their wo$en and shoot#e$ *p and leave...of co*rse the 5ndians aren#t gonna love white people no $ore.. hey#regonna want to (ic( *p so$e d*st *ntil people thin( abo*t it and re negotiate the ter$s of the treatyand that#s where this east coast west coast st*ff is at right now. e gotta have this beef and these words and this dialog*e *ntil we can re negotiate the ter$s of the treaty. 5 love the east coast..5 fro$ the east coast, b*t they have to *nderstand yo* -*st can#t be saying shit abo*t *s and thin( we#re not gonna ta(e it personally... 8o* -*st can#t be calling *s fa(ers and pretenders and non3creative and say we can#t freestyle..and we -*st sit bac( and say #2aw it#s cool #ca*se we love the$  beca*se they started hip hop#. &ell no, we#re gonna ta(e it personal, -*st li(e a (id wo*ld when his  bigger brother who ain#t doing his shit steps to hi$. hat#s li(e a little brother $a(ing lots of cash and the bigger brother co$in# along and sayin# #8o* owe it all to $e# hat#s wrong.. on#t be $ad  beca*se the little nigg*h is co$in# *p P ac you gave a &ot o% &ove )ac! to some ay (rea artist &i!e E456/ Rappin' 5Tay/ Dru Down and te wo&e crewta&! a)out wat made you decide to wor! wit tem   2Pac+  'eca*se 5 can#t always be in the 'ay. 5 (now how the 'ay is. he 'ay is the type of placewhere if yo* ain#t there they#re gonna tal( abo*t yo*. 5 wanted the$ to (now that 5 love yo*, 5 feel yo* and 5#$ gonna represent for yo*. 5 (now 5 gotta a certain a$o*nt of acclai$ so 5 bring the 'aywith $e... 5 (now E456 is what 5 was when 5 was with Digita& #nderground . &e is the 'ay right now ..hi$ and 5Tay . %o 5 get the$ on $y alb*$ to represent the 'ay. 5t shows we still have love and we#re still all good. 'y *s being representatives we bring the 'ay where ever we go.. appin# 4ay has always been raw to $e and 5 li(e his style. hen 5 was in -ail 5 *sed to always listen to st*ff so when 5 got o*t we clic(ed and did the song. 2ow he#s in -ail and 5 gotta do what he did for  $e. hen 5 was in -ail he *sed to send o*t sho*t o*ts and show s*pport, so now 5 s*pport 4ay. Everybody pray for hi$ and send letters. 5 hope the brother gets o*t of -ail as soon as possible.. ; appin# 4ay was released in <*ly #96=. 8o* (now its a str*ggle for every yo*ng 'lac( $an... 8o* (now how it is only >od can -*dge *s. - ow is te east coast 7west coast )ee%/ rea&&y )ot coasts* Or is it ad oy and Deat Row * 2Pac+  5t#s not both coasts. hat it is..is the people on the East coast are real pro*d and real c*lt*ral and real strong li(e we are on the west coast. hat happen was iggie  ca$e at a ti$e -*st li(e 0it&er  did with the >er$ans. 'iggie ca$e at a ti$e when they were open to so$ebody saying#e#re the $aster race and these g*ys ;west coast= are nothing. hey#re pretenders and this is why we#re not $a(in# it in the b*siness. 5t#s beca*se of these g*ys. his is why we#re not doing nothing. %o the east coast really not hatin# *s or (nowing anything abo*t *s..have -*st been listening to their s*pposed to be leader. hey were listening to the person who#s s*pposed to be representing# for the$... hey didn#t (now that what they were doing was ending o*r c*lt*re. e ;west coast= held itdown for yo* all. hat#s how 5 felt. 5 was in tears.. hen LL  was o*t there dancin# with wo$en in silver s*its which 5#$ not $ad at..beca*se 5 $ight do that one day.. '*t when the East coast was trying to be creative and test other bo*ndaries we were holdin# it down with this hardcore shit. 5t $ight not have been what yo* ;east coast= wanted b*t it (ept rap alive for years. 5t (ept $oney co$in# in. 5t let the$ ;the world= notice *s. %o how co*ld yo* ;east coast= loo( at *s and say #8o*#re not good eno*gh#7 e#re fro$ a bro(en ho$e. 8#all ;east coast= didn#t teach *s this.. we ain#t got no s*bways and graffiti. 5n spite of the gangs and all of that we still ca$e *p with this c*lt*re. 5 feel li(e we never got what we deserved. 5 too( it personal beca*se 5#$ fro$ the East coast and 5 (now abo*t that c*lt*re b*t 5 (now abo*t this ;west coast= c*lt*re beca*se 5 was here when it was being p*t down...%o now 5#$ doing what the East coast wo*ld#ve did if the west coast did this to the$... 5#$ riding..for $y side. 8o*#re wrong..5t#s not right.. ecogni0e *s. he only way the east coast is gonna recogni0e *s if for *s to do it on record, by $oney, by sales and by representing. <*st li(e KRS4One ...when PM Dawn  got on stage and he had been tal(ing shit abo*t hi$..what did K %3ne do7....;&e b*$ r*shed hi$= %o why are  people telling $e 5#$ wrong for doing what 5#$ doing. hey love K %3ne.. &e is hip hop..a$ 5 correct7 5#$ $ad at 'iggie and 5#$ r*shin# the nigga. hat#s the proble$7 As soon as the east coast separate the$selves fro$ 'iggie we will do shows in the east.. Everything is bea*tif*l..'*t so far the east coast has been with hi$. Everything 5 read..every letter 5 read. every interview 5 read .nigg*hs (eep saying #F*c( +ac..'iggie 'iggie this and 'iggie 'iggie that li(e he#s representin# everyone fro$ the east coast.hat#s why 5 attac( the way 5 do.. 5#$a general and 5#$ a s$art general and 5#$ not gonna attac( at no blind soldier. 5#$ gonna attac( those who attac( $e. he only reason why people was $ad was beca*se 5 ca$e o*t of -ail and $ade this a reality. hen 5 got o*t of -ail the east coast west coast shit was really started. 1a&i%ornia Love , when 5 was singin# p*t it down. and now nigg*hs is $ad beca*se $oney is f*c(ed *p, attit*des have changed..it#s not as safe as it *sed to be. 2igg*hs gotta thin( abo*t their  b*siness and that#s what 5 wanted to happen..2ow let#s go to the table..!et#s tal(..!et#s $a(e  peace..let#s wor( it o*t...let#s give the co$$*nity the $oney.
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